{"id":4336,"date":"2022-10-06T05:07:34","date_gmt":"2022-10-06T13:07:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/be.unicourt.net:9879\/site-blog\/?p=4336"},"modified":"2022-10-06T05:52:49","modified_gmt":"2022-10-06T13:52:49","slug":"prashanth-shenoy-speaks-with-startupmitra","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/unicourt.com\/blog\/prashanth-shenoy-speaks-with-startupmitra\/","title":{"rendered":"UniCourt CTO Prashanth Shenoy Shares His Legal Tech Startup Journey with StartUpMitra"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>The legal tech startup market faces a number of headwinds outside of a flurry of recent headlines announcing a slow down in legal tech funding in 2022. Selling to lawyers is incredibly difficult. The sales cycles for law firms can go on from several months to even years. Not to mention, the legal industry has been actively fighting against technological progress for decades, considering technologies we all take for granted like the telephone, fax machine, and internet as existential threats to the legal profession when they first surfaced.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As a legal tech company that has been around since 2014, UniCourt has weathered the legal industry headwinds, overcome many of the traditional challenges startups must confront to scale, and pivoted to develop successful products that have led to sustained year over year growth as a company.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We\u2019re thrilled to share UniCourt CTO and Co-Founder, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/prashanthshenoykatpady\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Prashanth Shenoy<\/a>\u2019s latest talk with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.startupmitra.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">StartUpMitra<\/a> in Mangalore, India, where he gives an in-depth look into UniCourt\u2019s journey as a startup and how we bootstrapped a Legal Data as a Service (LDaaS) startup to $1 million in Annual Recurring Revenue (ARR).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In this blog post, we\u2019ve transcribed some of our favorite segments of Prashanth\u2019s talk with StartUpMitra and we highly encourage you to watch the entire talk that we\u2019ve embedded for you at the end of the post.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">What is UniCourt?&nbsp;<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cUniCourt is a data company. We aggregate court records. Court records are public records connected to cases filed in the US. We get them from various sources and make them available for people to access to know more information on a case\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThese court records are hosted by courts, because the courts by law have to make them available to the public to view this data. But how it\u2019s made accessible to the public is a gray area. There\u2019s never really a clear line. There are about 3,000 plus courts in the US, depending on the jurisdictions and states and each court is sovereign.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cEach court has their own website. If a lawyer needs information from a court in Los Angeles, versus in San Diego, or in San Francisco, they have to go to each of these websites. So what we do is we aggregate this data from various courts and put it in a database and make it accessible.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">UniCourt\u2019s Pivot to Digital Marketing&nbsp;<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIn 2017, we actually won a startup competition. And when we won that, we got to meet a lot of like minded people, and people in the industry. We spoke about our problems, everyone had gone through these problems. Some people had faced those problems in previous companies, so they made sure when they started up [again] they didn\u2019t face those problems. But we got a lot of advice on, \u2018Hey, you guys are a data company. Why not use your data to do the marketing for you?\u2019 And this is public data. So in 2017, we decided to go the digital marketing route, the complete SEO route.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cBy mid-2017, we had put up about 25 million pages on Google. Google was very happy with it and crawled us a lot. About 18 million pages Google indexed, and the traffic just spiked on our website. We said \u2018ok, here is something.\u2019 And the idea was again, lawyers, litigation data, lawyers, right? But in the traffic spike, we saw a whole different behavior.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201c95% of the customers who were signing up were a normal Joe, who was looking for someone\u2019s name, a relative\u2019s name, and they ended up on our site, because there was a case filing against their relative, and they wanted to know more about it\u2026 Somebody who wanted to do a joint venture with a company, searched for that other company\u2019s name on Google, and ended up with other contract cases they had, because they failed to meet whatever contract terms. So we saw a massive consumer traffic, and we were probably the first people in the legal industry&#8230; We openly talk about this, this is not some secret. There is a massive consumer market for this data.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cEverybody, whether you like it or not, you are bound by law at the end of the day. And litigation, if you get into litigation, it\u2019s not something easy. Most people don\u2019t understand it. They rely on lawyers. And it\u2019s something that has a high impact on your life. It\u2019s a life-changing event. And we realize that. So a lot of traffic started coming to our site. We\u2019ve started growing the consumer side. We said, we\u2019ve tried selling to attorneys a lot, we\u2019re not going to do it anymore. We\u2019ll save that for a future date.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cAs of today, we have two separate segments. We have our consumer segment that\u2019s totally separate and then we have our enterprise segment that\u2019s totally separate\u2026 On the enterprise segment, we sell to large law firms, insurance companies, and even startups. Startups actually spend a lot on this data, because they can do a lot of other things\u2026 It\u2019s taken us a lot of effort to figure out who these customers are, how to sell to them, what do they need. On the consumer side it\u2019s just a web application now that they access. On the business side it\u2019s completely APIs that they access.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Bootstrapping to Reach $1 Million in ARR<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIt took us 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, and 2019. It took us 6 years to reach that $1 million in ARR. Today, we have close to 11 million pages indexed on Google. We have about 2.5 million visits a month. 65% of that is mobile traffic. Of that 2.5 million, our conversion rate is about 1% on mobile and 1.5% on desktop. On desktop the conversion rate is much higher because of the nature of the product. We get about 30,000 leads a month. That\u2019s how many leads we get.&#8221;\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cOur conversion rate on the consumer side is about 4.8%&#8230; Of the 2.5 million sessions, 1.5% leads, and 4.8% gets converted into paid signups. But these are consumers. The average life is about a month to a month and a half. So now there\u2019s a different challenge. For us to increase revenue, it\u2019s not about just new signups. It\u2019s about the customers that we have got, how do we retain them. At different stages, it\u2019s different challenges.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Playing the Long Game as a Startup<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWe are a completely self-funded company. We haven\u2019t raised any external capital. The way we were managing that is by not spending too much. The conscious decision we made of not raising funds\u2026 was probably the best decision. It also helped us to pivot and understand the market.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThe longer you are in the market, even if you are slow, it\u2019s okay. We have seen a lot of startups come up and die, but we have been here. We\u2019ve been able to make some pivotal decisions on what we wanted to be as a company, and what the product should be. Most startups could not, because they had raised some funds, made some projections, and they had to stick to that route, and either that route succeeds or fails. A lot of startups don\u2019t get to pivot because they have commitments from investors that they can\u2019t override.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI don\u2019t regret [not raising], because if we would have raised, we would not have taken this path. I\u2019m pretty happy with where we are now. Now we don\u2019t feel the need to raise, and that is probably the best place to be. We know more about what the product should be, and who our customers are, because we\u2019ve been here for so long.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Learn More and Connect With Us<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>We want to give a big thanks to StartUpMitra for hosting Prashanth and giving us the opportunity to share more about UniCourt\u2019s path from a startup to enterprise provider of Legal Data as a Service. You can watch the full talk here.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-embed-handler wp-block-embed-embed-handler wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"UniCourt Story| How we Bootstrapped a Legal Data as a Service Startup to $1M ARR - Prashanth Shenoy|\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/WwaqYYkcBLE?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>If you\u2019re interested in learning more about UniCourt, how Legal Data as a Service works, or have a question for Prashanth, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/unicourt.com\/contact-us\" target=\"_blank\">Contact Us<\/a> to connect and learn more.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>UniCourt CTO Prashanth Shenoy discusses UniCourt\u2019s journey as a startup and how the company grew to exceed $1 million in Annual Recurring Revenue.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":12,"featured_media":4338,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[48,79,57,49],"tags":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v22.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>UniCourt CTO Prashanth Shenoy Shares His Legal Tech Startup Journey with StartUpMitra &#8211; 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